Believing in Feather Tales, part 3

Ryan Cox • October 8, 2022

Believing in Feather Tales, part 3

Last time in “Believing in Feather Tales”, the idea of dinosaurs being warm-blooded for the simple sake of them being related to birds found zero support in the fossil record.¹ This, however, has not deterred the feathered-dino proponents. Rather, they place all their faith in the belief that some dinosaurs had feathers, making them the evolutionary ancestors of modern birds.

Have there ever been any feathered dinosaurs discovered in the fossil record? NO. Despite this fact, we at Creation Truth Foundation encounter young people at pretty much every event who have been taught and now believe that dinosaurs had feathers, are related to birds, and the Biblical record of Genesis 1 is not true because of the belief in feathered dinosaurs.

Once such example was a young man at a VBS in Barnsdall, OK. He shared how he had learned of
Nanuqsaurus, which was supposedly covered with a double layer of down to keep it warm in Alaska. I invited him to look with me as to what was actually discovered. Together we found that all the paleontologists had discovered were 3 pieces of a skull, and guess how many of them had any feathers or down – zero.² The young man had been told a lie, plain and simple. In fact, the sad reality is that many of the portrayed dinosaurs in media and museums are based on a single fossil, yet entire species are named from one bone for the sake of a paleontologist’s popularity.³

In 2016, a 3.6 cm piece of amber with a feathered tail was once trumpeted as a feathered dinosaur tail, but it has since been peer-reviewed and rarely if ever presented as evidence.⁴

In 2007, media outlets exploded with news that feather quill knobs had been discovered on a
Velociraptor arm bone. Quill knobs (ulnar papillae) are strong anchor points on the ulna for the attachment of pennaceous flight feathers. Thus, quill knobs are found ONLY on the arms of FLYING birds. Two major problems arose with the announcement of the Velociraptor arm bumps as quill knobs:

1. The supposed quill knobs were on the outside of the arm, not on the end of the arm, which is how it is on all living birds with quill knobs.
2. Since quill knobs are found ONLY on FLYING birds, do paleontologists now believe
Velociraptors could fly?

For the first problem, it is simply ignored. For the second problem, the feather believers say that Velociraptor inherited the quill knobs from an ancestor that used to fly, meaning Velociraptor was a flightless bird with quill knobs.⁵ Really?!?! For one, why have there never been any other flightless birds found with quill knobs? But secondly, how does this prove that birds are descendants of feathered dinosaurs?!?! This argument is the exact opposite of what they are trying to prove! Rather, many evolutionary and creation scientists believe the supposed knobs were points of tendon attachments, seen even on mammal bones.


Fossil specimens with preserved collagen (which cannot last millions of years, showing dinosaurs to have lived and died only thousands of years ago) have been revealed by several scientists to be integumentary fibers, not feathers, formed when the dinosaur was buried and began decomposing before the mud solidified and the animal was fossilized (during the Flood).⁷ In fact, if one is going to believe the preserved collagen remains are feathers, then one has to also believe that the collagen remains of lizards, turtles, snakes, crocodiles, dolphins, and mammoths are also feathers.

Additionally, the feather faithful are dealt a severe blow when it is understood that actual bird fossils are found deeper in rock layers than their supposed dinosaurian ancestors! For example, while
Velociraptor’s evolutionary dates are around 70-74 million years ago (upper Cretaceous), the bird Anchiornis’s evolutionary dates are around 160 million years ago (upper Jurassic) and the bird Protoavis’s dates are around 210 million years ago (upper Triassic).⁹ How then are theropod dinosaurs (like Velociraptor) supposed to be the evolutionary ancestors to birds when birds with full flight capability are found buried in rock layers BELOW dinosaurs?


The science continues to declare that God’s Word is true, including Genesis 1 and its affirmative account that winged creatures were created by the Lord on the 5th day of history and dinosaurs were part of the land creatures created on day 6.

 

As Jesus said in John 17:17, “Thy Word is truth.”

  1. Another part of dinosaur anatomy that refutes endothermy (warm-bloodedness) are the supratemporal fenestrae (holes) on the tops of their heads. These fenestrae have been shown to regulate reptiles’ temperatures due to their ectothermy (cold-bloodedness). See: The Anatomical Record July 1, 2019 article “The Frontoparietal Fossa and Dorsotemporal Fenestra of Archosaurs and Their Significance for interpretations of Vascular and Muscular Anatomy in Dinosaurs”, <https://doi.org/10.1002/ar.24218>.
  2. Anthony R. Fiorillo and Ronald S. Tykoski, “A Diminutive New Tyrannosaur from the Top of the World”, PLoS One, 12 March 2014; 9(3): e912887, <10.1371/journal.pone.0091287>.
  3. 0.0025% of the fossil record is comprised of vertebrates with more than one bone. See: Dr. Andrew A. Snelling, “Where Are All the Human Fossils?”, Creation14, no 1 (Dec. 1991): 28-33.
  4. Dr. Frank Sherwin, “Another Feathered Dinosaur Tale”, 10 September 2016, <https://www.icr.org/article/another-feathered-dinosaur-tale>.
    Calvin Smith, “Feathered forerunner or flight of fancy?”, 14 January 2017, < https://creation.com/feathered-forerunner-or-flight-of-fancy>.
  5. “…ulnar papillar reduction or absence in large-bodied derived dromaeosaurids reflects loss of aerodynamic capabilities from the clade’s ancestral members.” – Alan Turner, et. al., “Feather Quill Knobs in the Dinosaur Velociraptor”, Science, 21 Sep. 2007, Vol. 317, No. 5845, p. 1721.
  6. “…animals sometimes have weird, irregularly spaced tubercles arranged in lines on various of their bones, typically located on intermuscular lines (they presumably represent partially ossified attachment sites for tendinous sheets or similar structures): I’ve seen them on mammal bones and on a theropod tibia…”. - Dr. Darren Naish, “Concavenator: an incredible allosaurid with a weird sail (or hump)… and proto feathers”, scienceblogs.com, 9 September 2010, <http://scienceblogs.com/tetrapodzoology/2010/09/09/concavenator-incredible-allosauroid/>.
    See also: Foth & Rauhut,
    The Evolution of Feathers (Springer, 2020).
  7. Feduccia, Lingham-Soliar, & Hinchliffe (2005), “Do Feathered Dinosaurs Exist?”, Journal of Morphology 266(2):125-166.
  8. Dr. Alan Feduccia, Romancing the Birds and Dinosaurs, Brown Walker Press, Irvine, CA, 2020, pp. 182-7.
  9. Fossil Wiki and Natural History Museum in London
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As many of you may know, I appreciate space. Not space around me, although the older I get the more I appreciate that as well. The things in the heavens fascinate me and have for a large chunk of my life. I love working with our telescopes, allowing people to see for themselves objects that the Lord made on the 4th day of history. When I was younger I followed our Space Shuttle program, and over the years I have had the opportunity to see a couple of those shuttles around the country. Now it is great to see all the renewed interest in exploring the heavenly creation. I know most of it is for evolutionary reasons, yet over and over again something is discovered that points to the trustworthiness of God’s Word. After all, we are to study His creation as Genesis 1:28 states. On a recent trip to El Paso, it occurred to me that Blue Origin’s launch facility is in west Texas somewhere. After some quick searching I realized we were within an hour and half of it, and there was a rescheduled launch window during the time of our meeting. So, with some persuading of my colleagues, we arose early one morning to make the launch. We made it with just minutes to spare. It was spectacular! The whole launch to just beyond the Karman Line (space boundary, 62 miles/100km) and return of the rocket and capsule is about ten minutes total. While Blue Origin is best known for its New Shepherd rocket that carries paying customers to space and back with the biggest windows ever in a capsule, this NS-29 launch was purely experimental with a payload of instruments to measure simulated lunar gravity. Even though it was not a Saturn V, Space Shuttle, Starship or Falcon launch, it was great to hear and feel a launch for the first time, from blast off to the sonic boom return. It has piqued my desire to see a bigger launch now. As I began to reflect on what I experienced, the Lord reminded me of His design. Earth, our home planet, is so well designed for life. There is literally nowhere in all the universe like it. Yet He gave us the ability to discover creation beyond it. The only reason we can launch rockets and do space exploration is because He set it up in an orderly way. Physics works because He established it to work in a predictable fashion. As much as we may never understand everything in the universe from our position here, it works on an ordered reality that is reinforced by God’s Word. This is what drove Sir Isaac Newton in his understanding of physics. He wrote, “The motions which the planets now have could not spring from any natural cause alone but were by an intelligent Agent.” Evolutionists may come up with theories about the origin of things in the heavens, but over and over again they are being shown through experimentation and observation to be wrong. The Lord set the order of everything in the beginning and sustains it by His Word (Hebrews 1:3). So as you look to the heavens tonight, gaze into the depths of space and observe the different facets the Lord placed up there for our eyes (Genesis 1:17). Peer through a telescope at the lesser light of the moon with marvel and anticipation of further human study in the coming years. Check out the amazing observations being made by the James Webb telescope from deep in space. All of these place a perspective of how awesome our Creator is and how much we depend on Him. Our design becomes more and more obvious with every discovery, yet in our universe we appear so minuscule and fragile. Thanks be to God that His infinite focus has, is and always will be here on us! Blessings.
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